EPISODE 4: FOREVER UNFOLDING
[1] The majority of this audio was taken on a small handheld audiorecorder and carried around by various family members on the trip.
[2] Interested in learning more about Stoperstein? Here is a good resource.
[3] Wondering what Herbert was referring to when he said some Jews don’t like the idea of Stoperstein? Here is an article that discusses dissent about the stones.
[4] Many photos were taken on the trip. Here is one of the Stoperstein in front of the house:
And one of David, Ralph and Nadine (children of Lou and Simon) at their grandfather’s grave.
And a photo of the ceremony in front of the house:
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NADINE: I do believe that that generation who wants to keep the Holocaust memories and lessons alive, I worry that that next generation won't.
MIRIAM: Welcome to Door to Door: A multi-generational story of memory, trauma, and identity. I am Miriam Terlinchamp. In this five-episode series we follow how my family, over four generations, metabolized a history of survival, trauma and hope, and reclaimed a story nearly erased.
This is Episode 4: Forever Unfolding
LIVE AUDIO/JULIA: Right now we are next to the city hall. Of Meintal. Meintal is basically the, the city that took over Wachenbuchen and so it incorporated multiple. Villages, right? Yeah. In the, in the sixties and seventies, most of Europe, uh, went through a process of incorporating small towns.
JULIA: And so Wachenbuchen, at the time that Grandpa and Lou and Ernst lived there, had 1600 people, 20 Jewish families I know of.
MIRIAM: We begin by situating ourselves within my grandfather’s village within the broader landscape of postwar Germany. Shifting to the cemetery of the village, my sister Julia brings us into the emotional weight of that place—what it means to see physical traces of a family history nearly erased.
JULIA: I never thought that my family would ever have any kind of marker like that to showcase my family's history. And so again, as someone who feels deeply connected to physical symbolism. Of our history and what our people have experienced. And I think that's the closest we're ever gonna get is a tombstone and given what, what a tombstone or what a grave means to the Jewish people and that many of the people who, what is it, 27 people in my family who were murdered by the Nazis will not ever have that. To know that, that we still have some components, some part of our family still has that in our family. we thought, I thought it was never there and so I, I honestly never knew that we'd have any family with Any physical presence that they were there and, and what that means. And, this goes back like generations, like it was super cool.
LIVE AUDIO:
JULIA: David Strauss, but look at the date. Yes, he see he was born August 25th. That's my birthday. That is absolutely your grandfather. There's a stone.
NADINE: Okay. Thank you. Yeah.
JULIA See David Straus born August 25th, 1876. Died September 26th, 1928 in World War.
PIERRE: He was too old.
JULIA: He was definitely in World War I.
PIERRE: He was?
NADINE: He was, yes.
PIERRE: At that age. I see…
NADINE: Does it give you goosebumps at all?
MIRIAM: In October 2024, the city of Maintal, that includes the village of Wachenbuchen, Germany invited survivor families to return to their home village for the placement of Stopelshtein, stumbling blocks as memory markers. Only a handful of Jewish people survived from the town, three of them from our family. And so, our family accepted the invitation. To bear witness not just to the suffering, but also to the efforts of the locals to keep the memory of what happened there alive.
LIVE AUDIO / HERBERT: Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. I'm Herbert Begerman from the budeh. On behalf of our association, I would like to welcome you all.
RALPH: Herb Bregman. he and and his group are just dedicated to the memory of keeping the Holocaust alive. They're non-Jewish people. They're mostly retired. Really nice. and they, um, put up such a great. Job. I mean, they never had, a group this big.but it was very personal for them because they knew my father, they knew Lou, uh, they knew, um, Simon, they had invited them back in the 1980s to speak to some high school students about their experiences.
MIRIAM: Here is my Uncle Lou’s grandson, Neal:
NEAL: Growing up, my grandfather actually spoke pretty beautifully about the town that he grew up in. the neighbors, the people, the experiences. It wasn't like if I didn't know from my dad that he was Holocaust survivor, that he left and was chased out of his town, that his brother was in a concentration camp, whatever else, like I could've imagined him at any suburban town, even a suburban town like Ohio type of thing. Just put that picture in Germany. And I even know he did this trip, like similar to the one that we did roughly 30 years ago, or almost 31 years ago, to Wachenbuchen and with the same exact tour guide talking to high school students about his experience there. And so I always thought he actually cared a lot about this town and really like, loved it and was invested in and well. He may have mixed feelings about Germany. He, at the end of the day, like loved his experience growing up there besides being kicked out. Like that's always the asterisk.
MIRIAM: Everyone needed something different from the trip. Though the invitation to attend was general, each person who accepted the invite had a specific reason for going. Here’s Neal again…
NEAL: I feel like I hold and carry a lot of the stories from my grandfather. I carry some of the stories from my Uncle Simon, and I carry even less stories from my uncle Ernst. I don't always know how to share those stories. I'm sometimes afraid of telling them wrong or making mistakes, making factual errors in them. and so I, I go to not sharing those stories and sharing the happiness, sharing whatever else I can. And I think what I really wanted out of this trip was not a key chain or anything else, but I really wanted more of a connection not just to my grandfather and my great uncles, but also to their family and to my family right in front of me. I wanted more of a connection to my brother about these stories. I wanted to be able to just experience it for the first time in my life of actually seeing their story and not just hearing about the general stories of the 6 million who perished or the millions of others who experienced tragedy during World War II and the Holocaust. I really just wanted to focus on my family of like, what was their story in this town, in this place, and what's that experience and how does that relate to me?
MIRIAM: As Neal searches for a deeper connection to the specific lives and losses of his own family, Julia brings us to a powerful symbol of that connection—four small brass stones embedded in the ground of public space.
LIVE AUDIO/JULIA: So we're coming up to the stones now. They have to be on public property, and there's four of them.
NADINE: The stones themselves had been already professionally laid in there. What got laid were yellow roses and these children, young students, they were 16.
MIRIAM: As my mother Nadine describes the yellow roses, Julia shows how the presence and voice of students helped bring forgotten family stories back to life.
JULIA: we get to, my grandfather's former house and, uh, the students did a presentation, what I thought really special was we always talked about my grandpa and Lou. they definitely glossed over talking about my other great uncle Ernst… but I thought what was really cool was them being able to talk about Jenny, about, her story, because I feel like we always talk about my grandpa, but because we don't have a lot of information about the rest of his family, I never really heard anything like, and to be talked about like her, like even my grandpa didn't really talk too much about her. So that was pretty special for me to hear about her, spoken in a way about her legacy and, and what she did to sacrifice, to be able to protect her, her family. we ended up taking some pictures and stuff, but it was cool that the neighbors came out and, they didn't speak English, but, have that connection and,, for them to recognize what it meant for these stones to be right outside their home. And to understand the history of what it meant to live there and what it meant to us. Here. We were Americans from all over the country and even other countries. my dad, and. Uncle, we're from Belgium and we have this international group of people who were tied to this cobblestone street. And for them to understand that significance that I found to be very powerful, that I don't know how much you think about your own neighbors, imagine that, your neighbors would understand that your family's legacy was right there outside their home. And for them to value that and to care about it versus overlooking it and just think it's just another cobblestone. So that part was really, really meaningful to me.
MIRIAM: My mother Nadine again...
NADINE: What brought me to tears was not their rendition of the history there, 'cause clearly they had researched it and put it together like a typical 16-year-old reading a set of facts. Beautifully done in English. They were reading it off of index cards. Much the same way. We used to do book reports, same sort of tone. But then I was reminded that those kids volunteered for this task. They didn't get school credit, they didn't get graded. I. They didn't get anything for showing up and doing that work. They did it because they thought it was important, And I did speak at that ceremony very briefly. I had not prepared words another family had, so I did speak and I told them
LIVE AUDIO/NADINE: I remember being your age and reading biography of people, and here, here is the people that really knew the people you're talking about. Sorry. My father Simon, lived to talk to students. It wasn't always entertaining for the students, but he loved talking. To you all and with you all, he would be so proud that you did what you did and are here today. So thank you.
NADINE: What was so stunning about this day was number one, that they who have no connection aside from some geography. With the history there volunteered to do this and bear witness and that my father's fervent passion was so that the next generation knew the history, were reminded of the history and would do what they could could to not let that happen again. And how amazed and grateful he would've been. As was I.
MIRIAM: While my mother Nadine reflects on the power of remembrance carried forward by strangers, Neal is struck by the haunting contrast between the village’s present-day beauty and the devastating history it quietly holds.
NEAL): Wachenbuchen was such a gorgeous town. The day that we were actually there, the sun was shining. It was beautiful, it was warm. I loved walking around the town. It was picture per picture perfect. And I walked around and I was like, this is such a gorgeous town. How could such horrible things happen at every corner? We walked by one corner, and specifically this is the day that we were in the town and they were doing the reveal of the stumbling stone and we went to my grandfather and Uncle Simon's house and, and Uncle Ernst's house. And we started out by, where the shul used to be. There used to be a Yeshiva and a school there. And the tour guide was talking to us about like, the history about, you could look at each different store and see like a little piece of that history. Effectively, like this is the corner where the rabbi was beaten. and this is the corner where the yeshiva of the school was burnt down and this is the corner where the mob was chasing people through the streets of Wachenbuchen…
Like how could this happen here? but it was even weirder thinking like, how could my grandfather, who I actually do, have some positive stories of him telling me about, like walking through the streets and walking to school and, and friends and neighbors and, and community. Thinking like, wow. The town I grew up in is also kind of like this, where I have my own stories. Like it was weird to actually for the first time, put my feet to the ground and walk through these streets and, and try to grapple with, this isn't just a story that I learned about, but this is really my history and my story of my family. And this is where my grandfather walked this, he could have still been here and probably most likely our family would've had still some roots in this town if they weren't chased out of, uh, Germany.
MIRIAM: Just steps away from where my grandfather once walked, the past and present converge—as the mayor of Maintal offers a warm welcome to the descendants of those who were once forced to leave.
LIVE AUDIO/ MAYER: Good morning. Good morning. Dear family members and guests from Belgium, the USA, Luxembourg and Israel Dear Mr. Bierman. As mayoress of the City of Maintal, I would like to extend a warm, a very warm welcome to you here in our Town Hall today. I hope you had a pleasant journey. Your visit is an expression of the deep bound, your relate with your relatives. On behalf of the Meintal City Council, I would like to express my gratitude. The occasion on which we are gathered here today is a very emotional one for all of us, especially for you. The relatives and dissidents of the Reinhardt and Straus families…stumbling stones have been laid in front of their former houses in memory of their relatives. They all connect dear people with their faithful life stories with these stones.
intended to commemorate the fate of people who were murdered, deported, expelled, or driven to suicide during the national socialist era. They are laid in Germany, as well as in 31 other European countries, and are considered the largest decentralized memorial in the world in mind. Thank you all for making the long journey and finding your way to Meintal. Let us remember your relatives together and set a visible sign with the stumble stones that we must never forget their fate. It is an important contribution to the culture of remembrance. Remembering against forgetting. together with many others in Germany. The association is committed to this. And almost 80 years after the end of the Second World War and the Holocaust, this is more important than ever. I wish you all the best for this day here in Maintal. Thank you.
MIRIAM: While the mayor spoke of collective memory and national responsibility, my uncle Ralph experienced that remembrance on a deeply personal level—through the faces, stories, and honest reckonings of those who had known his family.
RALPH: but it was very personal for, for them because they knew my father, they knew Lou they knew, Simon, they had invited them back in the 1980s to speak to some high school students about their experiences. and they just did a phenomenal job of organizing, um, a bus to take us into town. We met with the mayor who spoke really nicely about, we can't. Make up for the past, but we can honor it and remember it. it was very emotional, very moving. Um, we then got a little bit of a tour of the town. They were very upfront about how the synagogue was destroyed by the townspeople. It wasn't the Nazis, it was them. Germany's done a very good job, I think, of dealing with their past. They don't brush it aside, they're very honest and open about it.
MIRIAM: My mother Nadine again…
NADINE: I was very focused on the speaker, the organizer of the trip who had a personal relationship with my father as well as with his brother Lou, and how he was crying during his recitation of the commemoration. I was so focused on that and jet lagged perhaps, but I didn't realize that the whole neighborhood had come out to witness this, including the people who live in that house. And I also met, um, a neighbor who had been a,no one who was there had lived there during those times, but there was a neighbor whose parents had lived there. and she spoke English well enough and she heard the story from her parents that her father was told to help tear down the synagogue because he was a plumber. He had tools and he refused to, and they had to flee because. They were worried about retribution. They were not Jewish. They were just people who didn't go along with it. That story was very strong and I think took the place of me observing too much the physicality of the place. It looked on one hand, both cozy and claustrophobic, meaning that the houses are set in different angles. And the streets have been all, everything's been renovated. So the beautiful cobblestone streets have been replaced and the houses are in typical kind of Bavarian style with the cross, the use of wood in decorative ways. So you can be very caught up in the acquaintance of the place. But what I noticed was the proximity. These people lived very close to each other. Jewish, not Jewish. So when the neighbors turned on these Jewish families, they were neighbors. They could see from across their windows. They had to have been playing together as children. There was no way they didn't know each other. So in terms of just observing the physical stature of the houses in that, in that town, that's what I came, it's not, they didn't have acreage around them. They could touch each other. yet they were able to commit such horrible thing. Horrible things.
MIRIAM: Actively seeking to remember with accountability and respect, breathes room into the possibility for healing both personally and communally. And to take on the mantle of memory, of invitation and tender holding of families who were robbed of their lives and livelihood and the people they loved, is heroic. This is Herr Hebert Begemann
HERBERT : German Language
Translation:
In May of 1977 when a group of refugees, Holocaust survivors was invited to this town, Simon Strauss and his brother Lou, and also his wife Sylvia, were among the visitors, Simon was just very personally touched by those stories. Being with survivors and their family members is always very emotional. Each one of their experiences are different. You know, there are not too many survivors left. When people come back who are the actual survivors. It's incredibly emotional. And now that it's a generation where it's the children and grandchildren, and for them, it's just a very soothing experience to see that we welcome them, want to hear their stories, and no matter what the stories are, it's always incredibly emotional and powerful.
MIRIAM: There is an art to marking memory. And, no clear formula on how to do it. How does one memorialize and invoke a living relationship to that memory at the same time? Here’s Sarah Weiss…
SARAH WEISS: My name is Sarah Weiss. Um, for 18 years I had the privilege of working at the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and Humanities Center. I started there and doing programming, um, and education and then eventually, um, had the opportunity to lead the organization. I do think there is a tendency to, to memorialize and like, let's. Put a marker in the ground and say, this happened here. And actually, that's what I didn't want. We wanted it to be something living and breathing that people could relate to, and that will evolve over time. the memorial is in the, um, in the activation of the experience, not in the memorialization.
MIRIAM: And here’s Jackie Congedo…
JACKIE: my name's Jackie Congedo and I am the CEO of the Nancy and David Wolf, Holocaust and Humanity Center. For a number of years there's been this tension point in like, how much of that needs to be strictly, for people to grieve personal loss? And how much of that should we use as sort of a moment of catalyzing for education. We don't always have to be deriving some hopeful silver lining out of this. There is a place just to mourn, just to hold it as a singular event. And just to say, you know, can this just not stand alone as a tragedy, you know, an atrocity. One of the greatest tragedies in all of humanity. So I'm personally still wrestling with that a little 'cause it, it flies in the face a little bit of sort of my own purpose in this work, which is to bring people hope and agency but I think that that's an important tension that as Holocaust educators and people who are engaged in the work of memory and memorial. we have to sit with that tension. we have to figure out what to do with it. And I don't know that there is a right or wrong answer.
MIRIAM: Let’s return to Wachenbuchen. Here’s Herbert Beegeman.
HERBERT: Thank you very much. I ask you again for a moment of silence for the memory of Jenny Schwarz and her sons, Hans Daniel, Simon and Ludwig.
MIRIAM: Here’s my uncle Ralph again…
RALPH: Seeing the family house that I knew had been in my family for generations, and it was particularly meaningful because I'm sure you've heard that that was sold to buy, um, Simon's Visa out of Germany.
LIVE AUDIO: So I'm Ralph Strauss. I'm, uh, Ludwig Strauss's son. And, uh. This is Neal, um, one son, Aaron, another son, Amuna, Neil's fiance who's here. Mindy, my wife. Um, and, uh, thank you again for arranging this. This is a, a really pivotal event in our family's history. Um, I'm Nadine Strauss and the daughter of Simon Straus and Niece of Lou Straus, but. You reminded me that my father, and presumably yours had two favorite aunts, uh, Nina and uh, Matilda, who my sister and I, uh, both carry Namesakes for, and I being back here, I'm remembering those pictures of them because. Because Typical. My father, he talks about how they were very heavy as younger women and during the war, how they got so emaciated. And that is a theme through our life, I suppose. Thank you so much for everything you've done. Uh oh. I'll introduce the rest. Um, so I am Julia Tur and Champ, my father at Pierre. Uncle Jean, my mom, NA uh, Jean and my father Pierre live in Belgium. I live in Seattle, so does my mom. Uh, grandfather was Simon Strauss for context. Uh, he was arrested in Crystal, Nat, um, in au at his workplace. And he was taken to, um, uh, Buchenwald for 13 weeks. And they, in order for him to leave the country. They sold his mother, Jenny sold their house. So for us, uh, all, many of us in our family have come back here, uh, to Vaan on our own. For me, I was 20 years old with my sister and we didn't tell anybody and we just walked up and, uh, we went to the neighbors and the neighbors, uh, for all of my life. And even through, uh, my mom and her siblings have visited here too, have always been welcoming and sharing stories of our family. So for, it's, for me, it's very special to come back here at this age and to know that for generations, my grandfather continued a relationship with the neighbors who, who are from here.
MIRIAM: As each family member shared names, memories, and the deep personal ties that brought them back to this place, Neal stepped back to reflect on the journey itself—not just as a trip, but as something closer to a pilgrimage, rich with meaning and emotional transformation.
NEAL: And even now I feel weird saying that's a pilgrimage, but in truth, it really is. Traveling on this trip and going on this, this, this real tour with family that really did transform my connection to my family and helped me understand so much more of not just my relationship and the stories that I heard from Grandpa Lou, but also again, those stories I heard about and from Uncle Simon and seeing their happiness, uh, uh, seeing how proud they were of their kids, their grandkids, uh, their families, how excited they were when their nieces and nephews, uh, visited, uh, visited them. It just gave me such different perspective, um, about them and who they were and really what they went through.
MIRIAM: The moment has finally arrived. The reason my family traveled so far. To retell our story. To honor the memory of my grandfather, my great uncles and my great grandmother Jenny.
LIVE AUDIO: Ladies and Gentlemen, dear guests, We have now arrived in front of the house at Rügenberg 11, where Jenny Schwanz lived With her three sons, Ernst Daniel, Simon and Ludwig, until the end of the 1930s. The building on Herrnstrasse 13, what you see, has been little changed. For all time. Simon and Ludwig in the USA called himself Lu. They both were able to recognize their house. Simon war hier mehrere Male nach der Zweiten Weltkrieg am liebsten mit seiner Frau Sylvia und seinem Bruder Lou. Ich habe sie persönlich kennengelernt. Simon hat sich auf eine gute Zukunft konzentriert und war überzeugt dass es besser wäre, Germany, if persecuted, people like him talked about their experiences and young people listened to them without reservation. Who, on the other hand, was a skeptic. He did not believe in fundamental change in Germany and suspected that the activities Erinnerungskultur of Deutsche Remembrance Culture in Germany were more of a superficial opportunistic matter of politics. Who have come together here feel a responsibility to disprove Luz Strauss' suspicious assumptions through our active actions. The Stolpersteine that are being laid here and elsewhere are not memorial stones like the gravestones in the cemetery…
MIRIAM: It’s a surreal experience to watch strangers tell your story. For others to decide they are ready for you to reclaim your stolen lives.
This is my sister Julia…
LIVE AUDIO/JULIA: I am in Wachenbuchen now. About to turn left on Ruben Berg Strauss and uh, we're walking to the Strauss family residence now. There's quite a lot of us. We have students. From the high school here who are who've done research on the survivors and, um, and their families just been kind of weird to listen to kids read it as just a normal biography of someone from the past when it's someone that you're so connected to, which was definitely hard to hear.
LIVE AUDIO STUDENT: Simon Strauss was deported in the year of 19 hundred and 38. During that night of Krsytallnacht numerous shops were destroyed or even burned down… However, some data which is shown here isn't phrased the same as it happened in reality. As for instance, you can see that this year says I wasn't which means released, on February 3rd 1939. However, he actually had to pay money. Simon Strauss’s mother also bought him a ticket to Shanghai…
JULIA: Um, but also very sweet intentions and nice to see a new generation. Continue to learn.
MIRIAM: The trick, is to understand the offering through the lens of best intentions, to understand that healing doesn’t happen in a vacuum. It happens through choice. To believe that another way of living, of seeing the world beyond the dark shadows of trauma, is possible.
HERBERT (German) Translation: There are some Jews who do oppose the places of the Stoppel Stein because they don't want people to trample on their family's name. So there's that part too. It's not a perfect system for every manner of memorialization, but for me it's a chance to look down and see something bright and ask why is that there? To give a pause to not forget that they are connected, to not forget that we are connected to this history. You know, not everyone does this, but for those that do, those stones are fulfilling their purpose.
MIRIAM: What a mighty purpose to name the unnameable. Here’s Dr. Sarah Crane…
SARAH CRANE: My name is Dr. Sarah Crane. I am the visiting assistant professor of Holocaust and Genocide Studies in the Department of Judaic Studies at the University of Cincinnati, and also the scholar in residence at the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and Humanity Center. When I look at the way that people talk about atrocities today. I think this is actually what people are looking for is the kind of moral and didactic lessons. How did this happen? Why is this happening? And what are we supposed to learn from it? And I think sometimes the actual details of the atrocity actually who's involved, is kind of lost. And this moral impetus becomes the focus… it's always going to be a historical event that we are striving to understand better as a historical event. There are still certain survivor stories and experiences that we're uncovering, and this is what keeps the Holocaust really exciting once again as an event. But I think it's almost impossible to talk about the Holocaust as a historical event without talking about interpretations of what its lessons mean today. And I think this is where I want students to be aware of this, be aware of how these two kind of discourses exist together. Like even when we do a Yom HaShoah commemoration and we talk about these remarkable survivors and their incredible stories, there's still always this impetus that these stories we need to carry with us into the future. And this question of how do we do that? What does that mean? These things will almost always exist together. And I want my students to be aware of what they've been told about how these things exist together and that they should continue to engage that question and to, and continue to be unsatisfied with other people's answers to that question.
MIRIAM: Here’s my sister Julia and cousin Neal…
JULIA: I started really talking to my grandpa about his experience at the concentration camp and understanding what happened to him
NEAL: this is something that really changed and added a lot to that picture and that image I have of Grandpa Lou and I think from a different perspective, uh, some of the stories that he shared with us. Um, it also reenergized me personally to rehear those stories to dive into some of his letters, to look through some of the reports I did in school. And it also energized me to share these stories again, um, because it's not all horrible and dark, but there is sunlight, there is a real beauty of these streets. Um, and the more we remember these stories and have that personal connection, uh, we can actually keep both Grandpa Lou's memory alive, um, but also remember that connection to our cousins like Miriam and Aaron and Julia, and why it's so important for us to, to keep those relationships and those stories alive.
MIRIAM: Back to Jackie Congedo, the CEO of the Nancy and David Wolf, Holocaust and Humanity Center…
JACKIE: I really think it all comes back to if somebody leaves with…a personal experience where they feel connected to the lessons of this history than we've done our job. I want people to feel like this is not over there and something that's easy to dismiss. I want people to feel. This is personally meaningful to them and that paves the way for it to resonate, um, powerfully so that people can make changes so that we can learn those lessons and be inspired and act on them.
MIRIAM: Following this pivotal experience, what invitation unfolds for our family? Here’s my sister Julia…
JULIA: It made me wanna do a deep dive. there's a Jewish museum in Frankfurt we went to, hat was optional, like the next day. And we gotta see the first time ever I saw any kind of,memorial for my great-grandmother,for my grandfather's mother and his two aunts who I'd always, always heard all these stories, about Jenny and then I got really excited to learn more about what, what questions we don't have answers to, but realizing how, how meaningful it would mean to me and to my family to try to start piecing together pieces now that we have these data resources that, my God, I just can't imagine what my grandpa would've done with the internet as, as it is today, to be able to help us do family history in a way that we couldn't even do a few years ago. And talk about what a great gift to future generations to be able to really help complete that story.
MIRIAM: To help complete that story. It belongs to us now.
Ohio Humanities made this episode of Door to Door possible. Door to Door is a production of the Institute for the Next Jewish Future and part of the family of podcasts of Judaism Unbound. Created by Miriam Terlinchamp, directed by Joey Taylor, produced at Monastery Studios, original music by Ric Hordinski, and art by Katie Kaestner.
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